数十メガバイトのファイルをどんどん格納できるDB
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BLOBってシリアライズデータを保管したりするのが関の山じゃない? oracle11g がいいのでは? BLOB型とか特殊な型の圧縮付き格納めちゃ早みたいよ。 >BLOB型とか特殊な型の圧縮付き格納めちゃ早 そうなんだ、超速いのかどうか試してみたいな。 一体型ならそれでもいいけど、圧縮するならAppServer側でやりたいとこだね。 http://left-4-dead-demo.blogspot.com left 4 dead , http://frontlines-fuel-of-war.blogspot.com frontlines fuel of war, http://penumbra-black-plague.blogspot.com penumbra black plague , http://the-sims2-castaway-stories.blogspot.com the sims2 castaway stories , http://the-sims2-castaway-stories.blogspot.com the sims2 castaway stories , http://sacred-2-full-download.blogspot.com sacred 2 full download , http://mercenaries-2.blogspot.com mercenaries 2 , http://penumbra-black-plague.blogspot.com penumbra black plague , http://insecticide-news.blogspot.com insecticide , http://left-4-dead-demo.blogspot.com left 4 dead , >>100 >BLOBってシリアライズデータを保管したりするのが関の山じゃない? なるほど。 OpenPNEは画像ファイルをMySQLに格納している。 c_imageっていうテーブルがあって、その中にBLOBで入れてる。 せいぜい数メガバイト程度のファイルにしておいた方が無難かな? >OpenPNEは画像ファイルをMySQLに格納している。 何メガのファイルで、何秒くらいかかってますか? dcache: disk based caching library http://www.ohse.de/uwe/dcache.html dcache is a database library implementing a persistent first-in-first-out cache. The database (or `cache') size limits are configured at creation time, and as soon as they are reached the oldest records are automatically removed. A number of commandline tools for managing the database are included. * The database size is limited to 63 bits on operating systems supporting large files. * The database size is limited to 31 bits (2 gigabytes) on operating systems not supporting large files. * The sum of the length of key, data and record overhead is limited to 31 bits (2 gigabytes). * The record overhead in the data area is 16 bytes. * The number of possible keys is limited by the address space of the process, or somewhat over 200 million, whatever comes first. * Storage of numbers is done in big endian byte order (`network byte order’). Databases are portable between hosts with different byte orders. * The size of the cache and the number of records in it are set at creation time. * The cache is cleaned up automatically, removing old records if there’s not enough space for data or records. * Deletions are supported. * Multiple readers and writers are supported, provided that the applications lock to database. * Keys need not be unique. 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