んーXF16-55mmも大三元と呼ぶには相応しくないかな ニコンソニーのモダンな大三元は、少なくとも画面中央くらいは 40MPクラス描き切るからね 0270名無CCDさん@画素いっぱい (シャチーク 0Cfb-NfHi)2018/10/08(月) 22:02:32.84ID:vhYmHGU1C>>269 精細感欲しいならRawTherapee使うしかないね。 0271名無CCDさん@画素いっぱい (ササクッテロレ Sp72-yYp4)2018/10/08(月) 22:13:43.51ID:EQKOlRhtp>>270 これ、全部撮って出しだけど 同じ撮って出しですらこれだけ違うのだよ クソ解像をRaw Therapeeで現像しようが Iridientで現像しようがクソ解像のままだよ 0272名無CCDさん@画素いっぱい (シャチーク 0Cfb-NfHi)2018/10/08(月) 22:14:35.69ID:vhYmHGU1C>>271 ゴメン言ってる意味が分からない。 0273名無CCDさん@画素いっぱい (ササクッテロレ Sp72-yYp4)2018/10/08(月) 22:23:53.39ID:EQKOlRhtp>>272 RAW Therapee doesn’t help sharpening “optically” soft images. 0274名無CCDさん@画素いっぱい (シャチーク 0Cfb-NfHi)2018/10/08(月) 22:57:34.52ID:vhYmHGU1C>>273 How do you get to know it is the optical matter? 0275名無CCDさん@画素いっぱい (ワッチョイW 84b3-dDTi)2018/10/08(月) 23:09:11.07ID:pTfNpRJk0 FACK YOU! 0276名無CCDさん@画素いっぱい (ササクッテロレ Sp72-yYp4)2018/10/08(月) 23:15:35.81ID:EQKOlRhtp>>373 Every image above is straight out of X-H1, 100% same settings. There is no matter specifically softening only kit lens’ image.
Although the RAW processing software is totally meaningless in this comparison, The output of RAWTherapee is not as sharp as what you believe, even worse, it suffers lots of false colors. I posted Camera JPEG vs RAWTherapee vs Lightroom image comparison in the previous thread. Find and see it if you wish. If you want to get the real sharpest image, you would have no choice but using Iridient. 0277名無CCDさん@画素いっぱい (ワッチョイ 46b3-OLp6)2018/10/08(月) 23:34:22.26ID:hXdjvk780 ササクッテロはほんとクソ 0278名無CCDさん@画素いっぱい (シャチーク 0Cfb-NfHi)2018/10/08(月) 23:53:56.41ID:vhYmHGU1C>>276 > Although the RAW processing software is totally meaningless in this comparison,
This and what you mentioned in the previous thread apparently don't show any optical limit, but that you simply could not get enough image quality.
To really know the optical limit, at least you need to check lenses attached to a camera that has non X-trans sensor, desirably some mesurement sensor.
Anyway, it seems to me that the problem is in controlling of RawTherapee. 0279名無CCDさん@画素いっぱい (ササクッテロレ Sp72-yYp4)2018/10/09(火) 00:13:43.99ID:HADVsmbzp>>278 Don’t mix the different issues and focus on the important points. The discussion about RAW processing softwares is TOTALLY MEANINGLESS in >>269’s comparison. Those images are the jpegs straight out of the same camera with exactly same settings. There is no factor that specifically sharpen the prime’s image and specifically unsharpen the zoom’s images. Would you still want to loopily talk about RAWTherapee? 0280名無CCDさん@画素いっぱい (ササクッテロレ Sp72-8950)2018/10/09(火) 00:49:57.77ID:CA4G0tNEp >> ササクッテロレ Sp72-yYp4 この基地外なんとかならんのかね 0281名無CCDさん@画素いっぱい (ワッチョイ 41ba-vBoO)2018/10/09(火) 01:07:55.55ID:M5pkD9T/0>>280